Monthly MIDI Contest 4: ***RESULTS***

[Willow]

Did someone say 7/8?

[CBlockDis]

Wow... this contest is drawing out dusty relics... o_o

[Rocco]

I've been doing a bit of antiquing. It might get even dustier. It woldn't be a Roccocontest without an distinguished guest list

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[Willow]

Wow... this contest is drawing out dusty relics... o_o

What did you just call me?

[Redmoonrising04]

Wow... this contest is drawing out dusty relics... o_o

What did you just call me?

lulz XPPP

[Rocco]

Not so much "dusty relic" as "seasoned veteran," hmm?

Gotta be careful with old peole. We get our feelings hurt easily

[Willow]

I read the rules as "all time signatures must be 7/x." Does this exclude "7x/y" time signatures (e.g., 21/16, 14/8, etc.)?

[Maxo]

I read the rules as "all time signatures must be 7/x." Does this exclude "7x/y" time signatures (e.g., 21/16, 14/8, etc.)?

I was wondering the same thing actually, I kinda wanna tripliwank some of my piece

[Kris Troutman]

I don't see it as a problem because once again, the visualization of your time sig is meaningless in a way. If you start to use 8th notes while writing in 7/4 it is arguably being the same thing as writing in 14/8. And so on. The only thing that has to happen is you have to be able to get 7 as the first number while dividing both numbers by the same number, otherwise it is not 7 time.

21/16 is not a good one though, because it doesn't reduce evenly back to 7 (21 divided by 3 to get 7, but 16 can't get an even number while dividing by 3).

[Rocco]

If it can be counted in 7, you're good. Like Kris said, the actual written time sig matters less than how the music is heard. 14/8 is really just 2 bars of 7/8. And 21/16 would just be 7 beats of triplets, so it's all gravy. If what you have in mind could theoretically be expressed accurately by just using triplets for each beat in 7/8 (or whatever), then feel free to score it however you want.

21/16 is not a good one though, because it doesn't reduce evenly back to 7 (21 divided by 3 to get 7, but 16 can't get an even number while dividing by 3).

Time signatures are not fractions. 21/16 means twenty-one sixteenth notes would comprise one measure. Only the top number need be divisible by seven. In this case, 21 divides 3 times into 7, so each beat (of which there are 7) would contain 3 sub-beats.

21/16 = seven beats of three 16th notes each, so it's still "in 7".

[Rocco]

If it can be counted in 7, you're good. Like Kris said, the actual written time sig matters less than how the music is heard. 14/8 is really just 2 bars of 7/8. And 21/16 would just be 7 beats of triplets, so it's all gravy. If what you have in mind could theoretically be expressed accurately by just using triplets for each beat in 7/8 (or whatever), then feel free to score it however you want.

21/16 is not a good one though, because it doesn't reduce evenly back to 7 (21 divided by 3 to get 7, but 16 can't get an even number while dividing by 3).

Time signatures are not fractions. 21/16 means twenty-one sixteenth notes would comprise one measure. Only the top number need be divisible by seven. In this case, 21 divides 3 times into 7, so each beat (of which there are 7) would contain 3 sub-beats.

21/16 = seven beats of three 16th notes each, so it's still "in 7".

It could be counted (very quickly) 123 123 123 123 123 123 123. The bold groups are accented, although the accents could be placed wherever sounds good to you. This is just an example to help visualize it (auditorialize? auralize?)

[Willow]

If it can be counted in 7, you're good.

The idea that I had running through my mind was a movement/section so fast, so syncopated, and so asymmetrical that you could easily lose your ability to recall what day of the week it is (see below).

14/8 is really just 2 bars of 7/8.

Dirty lies. If I emphasize the 1st, 4th, 7th, 10th, and 13th beats in a 14/8 sequence you certainly will not be dealing with 2 bars of 7/8! ... or would you?

[Maxo]

hahaha *49/32*

hahahahahaahha

[Willow]

hahaha *49/32*

hahahahahaahha

I'm pretty sure that evolves the musical listening situation from that of disorientation to that of brain damage. I really just wanted to make sure it was kosher to use 14/x.

[Maxo]

hahaha *49/32*

hahahahahaahha

I'm pretty sure that evolves the musical listening situation from that of disorientation to that of brain damage. I really just wanted to make sure it was kosher to use 14/x.

not actually haha, i don't even think logic pro can do that. I just threw in a measure or two of 28/32 and made it disgusting and rigid just fer laffs