Your Yamaha XG compositions on an MU100

[ButzaW]

- XG resets are required before tracks for yamaha XG variation banks/instruments to work (a GM reset will not allow for XG instruments, it'll always use default GM patches.) However, on the SYXG50, variation banks worked irrespective of any type of reset message beforehand, as far as I am aware.

I believe the same goes for SYXG50 (at least on my computer...).


These midis really sound kickass with that synth!
I'll attach one more MIDI, since I just remembered that I've used some sophisticated Sysex controls on it.
It uses a sysex message to cause CC94 to control "Autowah" on channel 8.
Heck, maybe it would be interesting to just solo out channel 8 and see how it sounds with the Autowah.
I don't think I have any other midis with that much XG programming going on in them.

EDIT: I'd just like to state that Tony Thai is the undisputed God of MIDI. Those tracks are (*%$&%$ great!

[BlackJackRatso]

Alright I got two I would like to hear if you have time.

There both from various Custom Doom levels. So I can't really provide any composer info unless there already in the MIDI or not. (saddly there not)

I'm posting these as a comparison compaired to my soundfonts. (which I'm willing to post if others want to hear.)

-Thanks

EDIT - Sorry there not true XG from what I can tell. I usually go for things that are GS formatted seeing that keyboard I use is a Roland E300. However these should be regular GM.

EDIT: Removed due to unoriginallity.

[Blitz Lunar]

I am only recording your own midis.

[BlackJackRatso]

I am only recording your own midis.

Ahh alright. My mistake.

[MaliceX]

- I've come across a couple of midis ("Farland Story" ones in the archive (SNES)) that actually freeze the MU! I don't know why this is - something to do with GS sysex data I presume, although it must be some weird messages.... most GS midis work fine.

Thankfully this doesn't happen on my soundcard.

- Rapid volume/expression/pan changes are not a big problem for MU100, within reason. They didn't work properly on the SYXG50 (stuttered, sounded uneven, didn't work at all sometimes.)

If there is too many rapid events, on the SW1000XG it slows down output, then fast forwards as it tries to catch up on realtime playback. How does the MU100 fare with that situation? (Test? Tsu Ryu's Metroid Fusion title piece)

- Overlapping notes on the SYXG50 just increased their volume. On the MU100, they cause phase/comb filtering (like most other midi devices do.) SORRY ZENKUSA YOUR TIME IS UP.
- XG resets are required before tracks for yamaha XG variation banks/instruments to work (a GM reset will not allow for XG instruments, it'll always use default GM patches.) However, on the SYXG50, variation banks worked irrespective of any type of reset message beforehand, as far as I am aware.

On the news of overlapping notes, this combing behaviour proves MIDI being pseudo-simultaneous, in action! It's really noticeable with drums.

As for GM reset only, on the S-YXG50 it prevented the ability to use any of the variation banks for my version. (v4.21) and acts accordingly with the SW1000XG.

- The SYXG50 has the "MU Basic" GM patch set. The MU100 can use this set or use the new "MU100/SW1000XG Native" set, which changes many instruments. Haven't worked out how to switch between the two, but the native one sounds better on the whole.

It's on the manual, or that sysex message on some japanese page.

Oh yeah, if Lunar's not willing to do certain files, I'll gladly record them for you. (Private Message please.)

[Blitz Lunar]

You can do Paper Luigi's tracks if you wish I've deliberately stayed away from those so far since they're GM (and require more active intervention on my part, which I can't really be bothered with.) I did specify XG midis to begin with =\

I'll investigate the MIDI reset business further.

For now, check the MU100 directory. I uploaded a recording of one of Zenkusa's awesome Pop'n Twinbee sequences, the MU100 demo song, Lutarez's "Jewel Box" composition and ButzaW's mushrooms track.

Also ButzaW yeah, Tony Thai is great. He's done lots of awesome stuff, quite a few teamcomps with Shock for instance, although a lot of his own stuff too. Trying to get him to post on these boards is like trying to get blood out of a stone though. I'll look into recording more of his stuff, though unfortunately most of it is polyphony busting or insular towards the SYXG50 in some way or another.

[Psyrus]

For now, check the MU100 directory. I uploaded a recording of one of Zenkusa's awesome Pop'n Twinbee sequences, the MU100 demo song, Lutarez's "Jewel Box" composition and ButzaW's mushrooms track.

Very nice so far. However, Jewel Box and Rainbow Colored Mushrooms are not in the directory.

[Blitz Lunar]

agh! i did upload them but forgot to move them to the directory. they're there now.

[Shock]

I'd like to point out that Tony Thai is also a talented chiptune musician (NSFs), guitarist/bassist and visual artist.

Also, hopefully we'll be able to finish our teamcomp before this thread becomes too old, so we can also provide an MU100 recording. The teamcomp is like 2 years old now anyway, so it's time we finish this.

[ButzaW]

DAMN that thing totally slaughtered my Mushrooms track, lol.
It was kind of a mess to begin with, but somehow it sounds disastrous on the MU.
I guess that's the main problem with MIDI files, eh? ^_^

[Blitz Lunar]

What sounds bad? If it's just the timbres of some of the instruments, it may be because I'm using the MU100 native instrument set, rather than the MU basic like the SYXG50 has.

Shock: you need to finish all the damn team comps there's like 4 or something.

[ButzaW]

Well, mainly that muted muted wah wah guitar on channel 8 sounds unlike it does on SYXG50, perhaps it has to do with the sysex being processed differently on each synth?
Other than that, the Calliope (channel 3) sounds overpowering compared to its SYXG50 counterpart.

But hey, that's all to be expected when playing something on a different synth than it was composed for.

What I do find strange however, is that this midi sounds kickass on the MidRadio player, which I supposed has a more similar sample base to the MU100 than to XG50.
Perhaps it is just the soundset you used?

[Blitz Lunar]

Soundset-wise the SYXG50 and MU100 are closest, the MidRadio player is pretty different. It's newer so the sample bank is changed quite a bit. I have noticed some differences in effects between the softsynth and this thing though... distortion in some cases sounds worse, other cases a lot better.

I suppose I could try it with the default patch set and see what it sounds like.

[Psyrus]

Soundset-wise the SYXG50 and MU100 are closest, the MidRadio player is pretty different. It's newer so the sample bank is changed quite a bit. I have noticed some differences in effects between the softsynth and this thing though... distortion in some cases sounds worse, other cases a lot better.

I'm guessing the ResoSlap XG patch had its attack intensified and/or delayed or something. In effect, the bass part of Jewel Box doesn't sound that great-- almost lagged if you will.

The XmasBell patch sounds better than ever though.

[Teck]

Please? :D